«Boeing-777» crash near Donetsk: secret of the passengers list

Regardless of how soon the true initiators and the reasons of falling of «Boeing-777» of «Malaysia airlines» near Donetsk become known, intriguing details of frauds with the list of passengers of the lost plane become property of the public. After article publication «Boeing-777″ crash near Donetsk is a deafening failure of special operation of the USA!» the letter in which the mysterious situation was in detail described arrived to its author.
Here it is:
- I work with foreigners long time, the last two years worked with Malayans. Therefore when saw the information about the Boeing in Internet and it was on July 17 in the evening, and, having assumed that onboard there can be the people whom I know, began searches of details at once.
First of all I visited the website of Malaysia Airlines, but that evening it didn’t work, information was displayed incorrectly, and was nothing about the crash. It began to work only the next morning, and the list of passengers appeared somewhere after one p. m. It represented the table of the following columns: name, surname, nationality, age. At first there was info about crew: name, surname, nationality, position, age. It was visible that there were two crews onboard, but it is clear, after all the flight is long, it is the replacement. Further there was info about a quantity of citizens over the countries, at that time, if I am not mistaken, 42 were with uncertain nationality, and the Europeans prevailed. And further the list of passengers was run on names and surnames. There was none of my acquaintances, thank to God! By that moment I read and looked at everything that was known of the tragedy, further I will be short and will state in theses:
1) There were 80−85 children according to mass media. In the list I counted 5 children at the age of 2, 3, 4 years. The following age was 18 or 19 years.
2) In a plot with passports the first open passport was addressed to 12-year old girl Sophie Charlotte Van der Meer. She wasn’t in the list on one of her names or age!
3) Big quantity of citizens of China though they weren’t in the list according to their citizens.
4) Two Ukrainians (with Slavic names and surnames).
5) It is a lot of passengers with a name, surname, age, but with uncertain nationality. Surnames are mainly Asian.
In the head there were many questions. But it was necessary to go to work. And here I MADE the HUGE MISTAKE! It was necessary to screenshot the page, but I didn’t make it! At work I got to know that onboard there was a family which I very well knew: Tambi Ji, his wife Ariza Gazali and their four children 13, 15, 17, 19 years old. When emotions settled, the brain started analyzing. I tried to find a logical explanation for all disagreements, but it turned out badly:
1) I didn’t find them in lists. There are 3 words in their name and surname, may be they can be registered on one of these names. But where were the children? Such age wasn’t onboard!
2) New passports and absence of their owners onboard. Diplomatic mail but why nobody declared that the girl is someone’s daughter, sister and so on and she is live, after all by that moment these shots already flew about the whole world.
3) big quantity of Asian surnames though according to the list the Europeans prevailed. Asians with the European nationality.
4) why there were no 2 Ukrainians who appeared in the list …
Already at home I again opened a computer, but there was no this list of passengers! There were cargo manifestos! The list appeared only today by the evening, and there I already found both the acquaintances, and the girl Sophie, whose passport was shown on TV.
Now, when the head brightened up, I suspect that it was the list of passengers of MN370, but not absolutely reliable too, as there was no Russian, for example, who was onboard MN370.
If at least I remembered the surnames of Ukrainians from the MN17 list, I could compare these lists, but I don’t remember. Only with all responsibility I can declare that they were in the published list of MN 17, but then removed from a site of Malaysia airlines, they were two and the names and surnames were Slavic.
I ask to understand me correctly that I don’t hint on something, simply it is the only catch for me between these two lists. Generally I don’t know was it a simple or deliberate mistake and for what purpose. I anywhere didn’t find this list any more and even in the copy. I didn’t find it in the Internet in the Russian (but it is clear, there were no Russians onboard), not in English-speaking part (it is possible to explain too, it is not the time for analysis to the people, whose relatives were lost and someone can simply didn’t see this information, after all, the list was not for long there). I long thought with whom it is possible to share this information and is it worth doing it in general. I decided to write to you, after all, there is a lot of readers on your page, among them, it is sure, there are also those to whom this information can be useful.
Generally, you can solve how to dispose. But only one earnest request if you place on a wall, please, without any lie, only in that look as it is.
One detail: I checked my attendance book, on Friday I visited the website of Malaysia Airlines at 11:31, at 13:18 (the list was at this time and, probably, on the page since it has such appearance of http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html and further I went to the main page (www.malaysiaairlines.com) and at 20:12 (by this time I already knew about the lost family, I coped with emotions and decided to recheck, BUT there was no list there any more and there were cargo manifestos, the pages way: www. malaysiaairlines.com, http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html, http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/malaysia-.) .
I also checked all other pages on which I looked for lists, on a case if I am mistaken in something, but NOT! I remember very well what appearance had that list and I still have main catches in memory: type of the list, 2 Ukrainians in it, a big quantity of names and surnames, mainly short Chinese, and in the column nationality there was «uncertain». Igor, I ask you, to give this information to those to whom it can be useful.
Now I can add also this: https://www.facebook.com/AfrRock01? fref=ts. It is the page of one of children of my friends. Now these pictures seem such multiple-valued and predictive, and for me also open sights on obvious communication between two accidents. (Letter end)
We will draw some conclusions.
1. After a briefing of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation on July 21, 2014, none sane person to whom neither the U. S. President Barack Obama, nor the prime minister of Great Britain David Cameron, some other western politicians don’t treat yet, the doubts don’t arise that the crash of «Boeing-777» of the flight MN17 17 of July, 2014 is in advance planned provocation.
Unlike Kiev, Washington and London, Moscow showed data of objective control which while nobody could disprove.
However, there are numerous doubts that someone in general is going to do it as organizers of plane crash have own, far-reaching purposes.
2. They are obvious and clear:
а). To accuse the Russian Federation and unrecognized republics of the Southeast of Ukraine of aviation incident;
b). To show the charge of the international terrorism to the Russian Federation and unrecognized republics of the Southeast of Ukraine and, thus, to transfer a condition of the conflict from interstate Ukrainian to the international;
c). To force the world community to stand together led by the USA in respect of introduction of sanctions against the Russian Federation;
All complexity of the organization of this rough provocation consisted that it needed to be carried out in close proximity to borders of the Russian Federation having the developed radar field on this direction.
The fact attracts attention that the chief of the head operational management of the General Staff of the Armed Force of the Russian Federation lieutenant general Andrey Kartapolov in the report on July 21, 2014 referred only to data of the Rostov Control Centre of the air traffic which has own radar means.
Their opportunities for detection and maintenance of air targets, including on range and height are certainly very limited in comparison with radar means of the Air Force and Air Defence of the Russian Federation.
From what follows that at this briefing the main data on flight of the Ukrainian military plane weren’t sounded as means of radar control of Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on removal of 50−100 kilometres are capable to find the purposes at the heights much less than 5 thousand meters. At this height, according to the lieutenant general Andrey Kargopolov, the Ukrainian attack plane Su-25 was found by the Rostov Central Department of Internal Affairs.
Besides, it is possible not to doubt that around operations in the Southeast of Ukraine the additional measures for control of air space are taken by the Russian Federation, in particular, the DRLO A-50 planes are used and the quantity of radar posts is increased. All information received by them, is carefully documented. In other words, all route of flight, including airfield of take off and landing of Su-25 is already known.
Thus, the fact is available: the Russian Federation possesses incontestable proofs of participation of Ukraine to crash of «Boeing-777» flight MN-17. It is ready to show them to the international community when it will consider necessary to make it.
And the leaders of Europe know it after conversation with Vladimir Putin.
We will return, however, to the list of passengers of this flight. Organizers of provocation, undoubtedly, had to consider the danger of its disclosure, up to publication of the countries and even the persons who have organized it.
Such succession of events guarantees grandiose international scandal and catastrophic falling of level of trust to the USA and their Kiev puppets. Besides, all this still threatens with huge multimillion claims of the states and natural persons not to «Malaysia airlines».
From this point of view, every possible reduction of quantity of probable sources of submission of claims, in other words, relatives of victims, is represented very logical and explainable.
Therefore, from the point of view of carrying out of objective, rather independent investigation, it is necessary:
1. To investigate and if it is possible to publish video records about passing of pre-flight control and survey by passengers of the flight MN17, given about a place and time of purchase of air tickets regarding establishment of true number of passengers and their persons;
2. To carry out the genetic analysis of victims remains regarding establishment of degree of their identity with the persons who have declared as their relatives;
3. To organize examination of the found passports regarding their accessory died on the spot.
Answers to these and other questions will allow not only to call organizers of provocation and responsible for crash, but also become the truth moment for Washington and London.
The list of passengers of the flight MN-17 which has been brought down on July 17, 2014
The list of passengers of the flight MN-370 which has disappeared on March 8, 2014